1 00:00:01,792 --> 00:00:04,250 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:11,500 --> 00:00:13,125 [walkie static] 3 00:00:15,375 --> 00:00:18,000 Hey, Cameron. It's Kaleb. Do you copy? 4 00:00:18,167 --> 00:00:20,250 Cameron, do you copy? 5 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:24,667 Skinwalker Ranch Command Center, Kaleb, how do you hear? 6 00:00:24,792 --> 00:00:26,750 This is Cameron. We're on the outskirts of the ranch now. 7 00:00:26,875 --> 00:00:28,750 We're just about a couple minutes out. 8 00:00:31,250 --> 00:00:32,958 [Kaleb] Copy you, Cameron. 9 00:00:33,167 --> 00:00:34,958 I've got eyes on you. 10 00:00:35,125 --> 00:00:38,292 [Brandon] After all these years of investigation, 11 00:00:38,458 --> 00:00:39,958 I am more motivated than ever 12 00:00:40,167 --> 00:00:42,250 to get back to the Skinwalker Ranch. 13 00:00:42,417 --> 00:00:45,167 My hope is, this year will be a breakout year, 14 00:00:45,375 --> 00:00:48,167 where we will finally determine the truth 15 00:00:48,333 --> 00:00:51,167 associated with unidentified aerial phenomena 16 00:00:51,375 --> 00:00:54,667 and high strangeness on the property. 17 00:00:55,708 --> 00:00:58,167 [Travis] Over the years we've been investigating the ranch, 18 00:00:58,333 --> 00:01:00,708 I've seen some crazy stuff. 19 00:01:00,875 --> 00:01:03,333 But none of it comes close to what I witnessed last year. 20 00:01:03,542 --> 00:01:05,333 Every time I try to push through the barrier, look what happens. 21 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:07,333 [Thomas] It's pushing you back. 22 00:01:07,458 --> 00:01:09,875 [Travis] We're talking evidence of invisible forces... 23 00:01:10,042 --> 00:01:11,708 -You seeing this? -Yes. 24 00:01:11,833 --> 00:01:13,792 [Travis] ...strange signals, 25 00:01:13,958 --> 00:01:16,083 mysterious flying objects... 26 00:01:18,042 --> 00:01:20,125 -What is that? -[Chris] Ceramics. 27 00:01:20,292 --> 00:01:22,375 [Travis] ...and, of course, possible proof 28 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:25,792 that something from out of this world is buried in the mesa. 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,167 -This is artificial? -[Chris] Yes. 30 00:01:27,333 --> 00:01:29,292 [Travis] Holy crap. 31 00:01:31,250 --> 00:01:34,333 I'm really looking forward to this year's investigation. 32 00:01:34,542 --> 00:01:36,792 It's time to start connecting new dots, 33 00:01:36,958 --> 00:01:38,208 and take things even further. 34 00:01:38,375 --> 00:01:40,000 Kaleb. 35 00:01:40,167 --> 00:01:41,917 -It's good to be back, brother. -Thank you. 36 00:01:42,042 --> 00:01:43,625 [Erik] We now have what we can 37 00:01:43,792 --> 00:01:45,875 rightly call hot spots, 38 00:01:46,042 --> 00:01:51,500 areas of interest where we have seen strange events repeatedly. 39 00:01:51,708 --> 00:01:55,333 Much of our work this year will focus on studying these areas. 40 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:59,542 We are all anxious to bring some kind of understanding, 41 00:01:59,708 --> 00:02:02,833 if not closure, to the mystery of Skinwalker Ranch. 42 00:02:03,042 --> 00:02:05,125 Hey, guys. 43 00:02:05,292 --> 00:02:07,292 -Brandon. Good to see you. -It's good to be back. 44 00:02:07,417 --> 00:02:09,417 [Brandon] After years of gathering data, 45 00:02:09,583 --> 00:02:12,458 we have more questions than answers, 46 00:02:12,583 --> 00:02:14,167 but we're driven 47 00:02:14,375 --> 00:02:16,333 to push boundaries like never before. 48 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:18,958 It's good to see the team assembled. 49 00:02:19,083 --> 00:02:21,208 I think more than ever before, 50 00:02:21,375 --> 00:02:24,667 not only do we have answers coming off of this last year, 51 00:02:24,833 --> 00:02:28,375 but I have to believe that we're getting closer 52 00:02:28,542 --> 00:02:31,500 to understanding what is happening both below 53 00:02:31,708 --> 00:02:34,167 -and above Skinwalker Ranch. -Exactly. 54 00:02:34,375 --> 00:02:36,917 [Brandon] Speaking of what is below the property, 55 00:02:37,042 --> 00:02:38,625 we have ceramic material 56 00:02:38,792 --> 00:02:43,292 that Chris found in the mesa this last year. 57 00:02:43,458 --> 00:02:45,167 Not only is this ceramic material 58 00:02:45,375 --> 00:02:47,250 not naturally occurring, 59 00:02:47,375 --> 00:02:48,833 but it also has some strange 60 00:02:49,042 --> 00:02:51,458 electromagnetic properties. 61 00:02:51,625 --> 00:02:53,833 All of which have been verified with 62 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,333 -scientific equipment. -Yeah. 63 00:02:55,500 --> 00:02:57,208 [Travis] The ceramics we found 64 00:02:57,375 --> 00:02:59,833 while drilling in the mesa last year were 65 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,333 an absolute game changer. Based off the tests we ran, 66 00:03:03,500 --> 00:03:06,833 they appear machine-made and super heat-resistant, 67 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,333 just like the ceramics used to protect man-made spacecraft. 68 00:03:10,542 --> 00:03:12,417 I'm going to reposition this. 69 00:03:12,583 --> 00:03:15,125 [Travis] When we bombarded a sample with electrons, 70 00:03:15,292 --> 00:03:17,833 a bunch of holes formed on the surface. 71 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,500 Are those holes getting bigger? 72 00:03:19,667 --> 00:03:22,083 -[Erik] Yes, I think so. -[Brian] Yeah, yeah. 73 00:03:22,250 --> 00:03:23,667 Let's turn it off 74 00:03:23,833 --> 00:03:25,375 to see if it goes back to normal. Here we go. 75 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:28,042 But when we stopped, 76 00:03:28,208 --> 00:03:30,208 the material appeared to repair itself. 77 00:03:30,375 --> 00:03:32,375 [Brandon] Look at that. 78 00:03:32,542 --> 00:03:35,292 [Travis] I've never seen anything like that before. 79 00:03:35,458 --> 00:03:38,000 This stuff is fixing itself. 80 00:03:38,167 --> 00:03:41,333 That's exactly right. Unbelievable. 81 00:03:41,458 --> 00:03:43,333 [Erik] It raises the question, what the hell 82 00:03:43,458 --> 00:03:44,833 -is there in the mesa? -[Travis] Yeah. 83 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,208 [Brandon] I mean, let's not forget 84 00:03:47,375 --> 00:03:51,167 a tungsten carbide drill was damaged inside of that mesa. 85 00:03:51,333 --> 00:03:54,417 I want to find out if it is connected 86 00:03:54,583 --> 00:03:58,375 to the manufactured ceramic material. 87 00:03:58,542 --> 00:04:00,875 -[Thomas] Oh, my gosh. -[Kaleb] Look at that thing. 88 00:04:01,042 --> 00:04:03,375 [Thomas] Half that tooth is gone. 89 00:04:03,542 --> 00:04:05,833 [Travis] Last year, as we drilled the second 90 00:04:06,042 --> 00:04:10,000 of two boreholes, the drill bit hit something that destroyed it, 91 00:04:10,167 --> 00:04:12,542 about 470 feet into the mesa. 92 00:04:12,708 --> 00:04:15,583 And that was when we found the ceramics in the spoils. 93 00:04:15,750 --> 00:04:19,250 So far, we know from the ground-penetrating radar 94 00:04:19,417 --> 00:04:21,333 that there's a 400-foot-long object, 95 00:04:21,542 --> 00:04:23,167 possibly made of metal, 96 00:04:23,375 --> 00:04:25,500 and surrounded by several smaller objects. 97 00:04:25,708 --> 00:04:28,250 Did the ceramics come from one of these things? 98 00:04:28,417 --> 00:04:30,458 And if they did, what the heck is it? 99 00:04:30,667 --> 00:04:32,167 Chris Roberts, 100 00:04:32,333 --> 00:04:34,542 our archaeologist, has been busy at work 101 00:04:34,708 --> 00:04:36,750 over the last several months in preparation 102 00:04:36,917 --> 00:04:39,458 -for this meeting. -Yeah. 103 00:04:39,625 --> 00:04:42,500 After last year's investigation concluded, 104 00:04:42,667 --> 00:04:45,125 I did some cleanup of the deposits 105 00:04:45,292 --> 00:04:47,250 that came out of Borehole 2. 106 00:04:47,417 --> 00:04:49,417 When I was actually 107 00:04:49,542 --> 00:04:52,250 sorting in the 60- to 90-foot section, 108 00:04:52,375 --> 00:04:54,375 I found something else in there, as well. 109 00:04:54,542 --> 00:04:57,125 And what I've determined under magnification 110 00:04:57,292 --> 00:04:58,625 is that it's a ceramic. 111 00:04:58,833 --> 00:05:02,708 But this is the head-scratching part. 112 00:05:02,875 --> 00:05:04,125 It's a little bit darker, 113 00:05:04,292 --> 00:05:06,583 -and it's more dense. -Okay. 114 00:05:06,750 --> 00:05:08,083 So, we have two different ceramics 115 00:05:08,250 --> 00:05:09,500 -in the mesa. -Wow. 116 00:05:09,667 --> 00:05:11,000 -Wow. -Well, did you test it 117 00:05:11,208 --> 00:05:12,500 -with any other instrument? -I did not. 118 00:05:12,708 --> 00:05:14,500 But I have a test we can run here on the ranch 119 00:05:14,708 --> 00:05:17,750 to see how they compare under a special UV light. 120 00:05:17,917 --> 00:05:20,375 -Let's do that. Let's do that. -Yeah. 121 00:05:20,542 --> 00:05:22,833 [Chris] I haven't identified the different ceramics 122 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,042 as to a... a known type. 123 00:05:25,250 --> 00:05:26,792 So it'll be really interesting 124 00:05:26,958 --> 00:05:30,167 to test both ceramics to see if they're related. 125 00:05:30,375 --> 00:05:31,875 [Erik] This second possible ceramic 126 00:05:32,083 --> 00:05:33,958 is all the more reason for us 127 00:05:34,167 --> 00:05:35,708 -to get back inside that mesa. -Yes. 128 00:05:35,917 --> 00:05:38,417 But how do we get in there? How can we do this differently? 129 00:05:38,583 --> 00:05:40,292 [Thomas] Uh, well, so far, 130 00:05:40,458 --> 00:05:42,792 -we've done horizontal drilling. -Right. 131 00:05:44,875 --> 00:05:48,167 [Thomas] We were only 33 feet from the top of the mesa 132 00:05:48,375 --> 00:05:50,417 when we hit that object. 133 00:05:51,375 --> 00:05:53,500 And you look at that depth... 134 00:05:53,667 --> 00:05:57,000 That's really achievable if we were to come from the top down. 135 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,583 I think that the time is now to go in vertical 136 00:06:01,708 --> 00:06:04,167 with a much bigger diameter drill bit. 137 00:06:04,375 --> 00:06:06,708 Uh, we're thinking maybe around four feet. 138 00:06:06,875 --> 00:06:09,333 What is this anomaly? 139 00:06:09,500 --> 00:06:12,333 What's this hard substance that stopped a drill bit 140 00:06:12,458 --> 00:06:14,333 cold in its tracks? 141 00:06:14,458 --> 00:06:17,500 By going to a vertical drilling operation this year, 142 00:06:17,625 --> 00:06:19,500 we're going to be able to be a lot more controlled 143 00:06:19,667 --> 00:06:21,167 in exactly where we're drilling. 144 00:06:21,375 --> 00:06:22,667 In addition to that, 145 00:06:22,875 --> 00:06:24,875 it'll allow us to carefully examine, 146 00:06:25,042 --> 00:06:26,875 foot-by-foot, as we go down, 147 00:06:27,042 --> 00:06:29,292 so we don't damage whatever it is inside of there. 148 00:06:29,458 --> 00:06:32,167 Can you imagine a four-foot-diameter hole 149 00:06:32,375 --> 00:06:33,667 going down 30 feet? 150 00:06:33,833 --> 00:06:35,792 -We can do a lot with that. -Yeah. 151 00:06:35,958 --> 00:06:37,750 I know you're thinking, how many instruments 152 00:06:37,875 --> 00:06:39,875 we can put down there and all the data we can collect. 153 00:06:40,042 --> 00:06:42,458 [Thomas] So we're going to have to be bringing somebody in 154 00:06:42,625 --> 00:06:44,208 from outside the area, 155 00:06:44,417 --> 00:06:45,458 which will take two or three weeks to happen. 156 00:06:45,625 --> 00:06:47,375 Well, that's exciting. 157 00:06:47,542 --> 00:06:51,625 I'd love to get to the bottom of what is in the mesa. 158 00:06:51,792 --> 00:06:55,083 So, I want to make sure that we are carefully engaging 159 00:06:55,208 --> 00:06:57,875 the digging activity and excavation 160 00:06:58,042 --> 00:06:59,833 over the course of the next few weeks. 161 00:07:00,042 --> 00:07:01,250 -Absolutely. -Yeah. 162 00:07:01,375 --> 00:07:02,583 [Brandon] Also, I think one thing I want 163 00:07:02,792 --> 00:07:04,500 to explore is this bubble. 164 00:07:04,708 --> 00:07:07,667 Why is this exotic anomaly 165 00:07:07,875 --> 00:07:09,833 -over Skinwalker Ranch? -Yeah. 166 00:07:10,042 --> 00:07:12,875 [Travis] Of all the strange stuff we've seen out here, 167 00:07:13,042 --> 00:07:16,125 the bubble has got to be one of the biggest mysteries. 168 00:07:16,292 --> 00:07:18,667 The only way I can describe it is, 169 00:07:18,875 --> 00:07:21,167 it's like a massive, invisible ball, 170 00:07:21,375 --> 00:07:24,500 almost like some kind of science-fiction force field. 171 00:07:24,708 --> 00:07:27,542 It's got a 2,000-foot radius, 172 00:07:27,708 --> 00:07:30,750 and it reaches both above and below ground. 173 00:07:30,917 --> 00:07:33,833 Its epicenter is at the place we call the triangle, 174 00:07:34,042 --> 00:07:37,167 and it even covers the mesa drill site. 175 00:07:37,375 --> 00:07:39,833 So far, we've seen its barriers block drones 176 00:07:40,042 --> 00:07:42,333 and even rockets from passing through it. 177 00:07:42,458 --> 00:07:44,250 We've picked up possible communication signals 178 00:07:44,375 --> 00:07:47,458 inside of it and documented a ton 179 00:07:47,625 --> 00:07:49,875 of UAPs going in and out of it. 180 00:07:50,042 --> 00:07:53,708 [Brandon] Well, I'm anxious to hear what are the immediate 181 00:07:53,875 --> 00:07:57,000 action items to begin this year of experiments. 182 00:07:57,167 --> 00:07:59,750 [Erik] I think the first place we should focus is 183 00:07:59,875 --> 00:08:01,417 at the center of the bubble, where we saw 184 00:08:01,583 --> 00:08:02,833 what we've been calling the blob. 185 00:08:03,042 --> 00:08:04,875 Right. 186 00:08:05,042 --> 00:08:07,458 One of the most curious spots inside the bubble 187 00:08:07,625 --> 00:08:09,667 is 31 feet above the triangle. 188 00:08:09,750 --> 00:08:13,750 That's where we captured high-speed images back in 2022 189 00:08:13,917 --> 00:08:18,625 of a blob destroying a rocket midair. 190 00:08:18,792 --> 00:08:20,833 We don't know what this thing is 191 00:08:20,958 --> 00:08:23,333 or how it connects to the bubble. 192 00:08:23,417 --> 00:08:25,542 So the hope is that, 193 00:08:25,708 --> 00:08:28,458 by concentrating on key areas like the blob, 194 00:08:28,583 --> 00:08:31,000 we might unravel this entire bubble mystery. 195 00:08:31,125 --> 00:08:34,917 As we've been preparing for this year's activities, 196 00:08:35,042 --> 00:08:39,125 Erik and Travis have tasked me to erect these two different 197 00:08:39,292 --> 00:08:42,875 new towers, 30 feet high, right there in the triangle. 198 00:08:43,042 --> 00:08:44,500 I'm pleased to report that we're ready 199 00:08:44,708 --> 00:08:47,042 to erect those towers and move forward. 200 00:08:47,208 --> 00:08:48,667 [Erik] We're going to be able to put instruments 201 00:08:48,833 --> 00:08:51,667 right in the heart of that 30 or so foot spot 202 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:53,417 over the center of the triangle. 203 00:08:53,583 --> 00:08:55,375 [Travis] That's right. I reached out 204 00:08:55,542 --> 00:08:59,417 to LOC Precision, uh, and-and asked them 205 00:08:59,542 --> 00:09:01,667 to design a thrust stand, 206 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:05,125 so we can put rocket motors upside down 207 00:09:05,292 --> 00:09:06,500 at the 30-foot mark. 208 00:09:06,708 --> 00:09:09,083 That will put huge amounts of light, heat 209 00:09:09,250 --> 00:09:10,542 and smoke into that spot. 210 00:09:10,750 --> 00:09:13,042 It might reveal the blob again, 211 00:09:13,208 --> 00:09:15,792 and we might be able to get a better image of it. 212 00:09:15,958 --> 00:09:17,333 I've developed a piece of software. 213 00:09:17,458 --> 00:09:18,792 I am calling it Meta-Frame. 214 00:09:18,958 --> 00:09:21,583 Now this is... this is a piece of software 215 00:09:21,750 --> 00:09:24,167 that allows us to catch fleeting events that 216 00:09:24,292 --> 00:09:26,750 are so fast that we wouldn't catch them with the naked eye. 217 00:09:26,875 --> 00:09:29,542 So now we have the ability 218 00:09:29,708 --> 00:09:33,667 to study any unusual flights or UAP over the ranch. 219 00:09:33,792 --> 00:09:37,167 Also, it allows us to review all of the events 220 00:09:37,333 --> 00:09:39,583 that take place on the property over the course of 221 00:09:39,708 --> 00:09:42,500 24 hours, so if something's going to happen, you know, 222 00:09:42,708 --> 00:09:45,333 on the ranch or in our airspace, we're going to catch it. 223 00:09:45,542 --> 00:09:47,333 [Cameron] That's good. 224 00:09:47,458 --> 00:09:48,833 -Excellent. Excellent. -Love it. 225 00:09:49,042 --> 00:09:51,667 That tool is going to be really valuable. 226 00:09:51,875 --> 00:09:53,167 -[Erik] Absolutely. -Yeah. Yeah. 227 00:09:53,375 --> 00:09:55,458 Well, let's, uh, let's move forward. Thank you, 228 00:09:55,625 --> 00:09:57,167 -everyone. -[Erik] As always, 229 00:09:57,333 --> 00:09:58,917 we got our work cut out for us. I say we get started. 230 00:09:59,083 --> 00:10:02,292 Looking forward to getting the answers. 231 00:10:02,458 --> 00:10:03,750 -All right. -Very good. 232 00:10:03,875 --> 00:10:05,958 Thank you, gentlemen. 233 00:10:13,750 --> 00:10:16,500 [Thomas] So, first things first. 234 00:10:16,667 --> 00:10:19,333 Let's take these bolts out of the hinge. 235 00:10:19,542 --> 00:10:21,333 Yeah, okay. 236 00:10:21,542 --> 00:10:23,833 [Travis] Before starting our first experiment of the year, 237 00:10:24,042 --> 00:10:26,333 we needed to install two new towers 238 00:10:26,500 --> 00:10:29,083 at the triangle, which is the epicenter of the bubble. 239 00:10:29,208 --> 00:10:32,167 -Right there. -Right there. HOLD! HOLD! HOLD! 240 00:10:32,250 --> 00:10:33,833 These 30-foot towers were specifically designed 241 00:10:34,042 --> 00:10:35,667 to run tests 242 00:10:35,792 --> 00:10:39,083 right in the spot where we saw that strange blob before. 243 00:10:39,208 --> 00:10:40,875 -That's all tightened down. -It's locked in, dude. 244 00:10:41,042 --> 00:10:42,417 This thing ain't going nowhere. 245 00:10:42,625 --> 00:10:45,167 -I'll give you this. -Okay. 246 00:10:45,333 --> 00:10:47,167 [Travis] Once the towers were up, Allen Isdell 247 00:10:47,375 --> 00:10:49,667 from LOC Precision Rockets and his daughter Katie 248 00:10:49,792 --> 00:10:52,375 arrived to install the most important piece 249 00:10:52,542 --> 00:10:53,708 of tonight's experiment. 250 00:10:53,875 --> 00:10:55,125 This is the fun table right here, man. 251 00:10:55,333 --> 00:10:56,958 This is. 252 00:10:57,125 --> 00:10:58,833 [Travis] They've brought custom-made rocket motors, 253 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,750 which we're going to mount upside down on top 254 00:11:00,917 --> 00:11:03,083 of one of our new towers. 255 00:11:03,250 --> 00:11:06,417 These will allow us to blast flames and smoke 256 00:11:06,542 --> 00:11:10,167 directly into the spot where we first saw the blob. 257 00:11:11,208 --> 00:11:13,000 Since it appeared for just a moment 258 00:11:13,208 --> 00:11:15,167 when the rocket was destroyed in 2022, 259 00:11:15,250 --> 00:11:18,833 we're hoping long-sustained heat and flames 260 00:11:19,042 --> 00:11:21,500 from a rocket engine will make it appear again, 261 00:11:21,667 --> 00:11:24,250 but for longer this time, so we can figure out 262 00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:25,667 what the heck it actually is. 263 00:11:25,833 --> 00:11:27,083 -Okay. -Put the ignitor in and 264 00:11:27,250 --> 00:11:29,833 -connect it and then get clear. -Okay. 265 00:11:29,958 --> 00:11:31,583 -All right? Thanks, man. -All right. 266 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:33,417 [Travis] During our experiment... 267 00:11:33,542 --> 00:11:35,250 [Dave] That's booted up. 268 00:11:35,417 --> 00:11:36,792 [Travis] ...we'll be using a whole bunch 269 00:11:36,958 --> 00:11:38,542 of specialty equipment. 270 00:11:38,708 --> 00:11:40,125 All right, so we got power. 271 00:11:40,333 --> 00:11:41,583 We've got lidar, 272 00:11:41,750 --> 00:11:43,750 which can capture infrared images of things 273 00:11:43,875 --> 00:11:45,500 you can't see with the naked eye. 274 00:11:45,583 --> 00:11:48,333 Then we also have thermal FLIR cameras, 275 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:51,500 which will identify anything with a different temperature 276 00:11:51,625 --> 00:11:53,000 than the surrounding environment. 277 00:11:53,167 --> 00:11:57,458 Let's put this one right there looking that way. 278 00:11:57,625 --> 00:12:01,000 We've also set up several high-speed video cameras, 279 00:12:01,167 --> 00:12:03,250 aimed where we saw the blob before. 280 00:12:03,417 --> 00:12:05,708 What am I looking at here? 281 00:12:05,875 --> 00:12:08,667 [Travis] Those'll feed into Erik's new Meta-Frame system. 282 00:12:08,833 --> 00:12:11,083 So if the blob appears, even for a moment, 283 00:12:11,208 --> 00:12:13,625 we should be able to catch it on camera. 284 00:12:13,792 --> 00:12:15,708 All right, we should be ready. 285 00:12:15,875 --> 00:12:17,750 All right. How are we doing over here, guys? 286 00:12:17,875 --> 00:12:19,833 -We're ready. All right. -[Katie] Yeah. -Thank you. 287 00:12:19,958 --> 00:12:22,292 [Travis] Erik, we're going to now shut down until dark. 288 00:12:22,458 --> 00:12:23,833 Copy that, Travis. 289 00:12:24,042 --> 00:12:25,625 -Perfect. -All right. Cool. 290 00:12:25,792 --> 00:12:28,208 Appreciate it, guys. 291 00:12:31,208 --> 00:12:34,375 [Travis] While we were waiting for nightfall... 292 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:36,000 What you got here? 293 00:12:36,167 --> 00:12:38,208 Guys, Chris has been looking at the properties 294 00:12:38,375 --> 00:12:40,333 of these materials that we brought out of the mesa. 295 00:12:40,542 --> 00:12:42,833 [Travis] ...Erik, Thomas and I joined Chris Roberts 296 00:12:43,042 --> 00:12:44,500 in the command center. 297 00:12:44,708 --> 00:12:46,208 He wanted to show us the new kind of ceramic 298 00:12:46,375 --> 00:12:47,917 he told us about yesterday. 299 00:12:48,083 --> 00:12:51,000 He also wanted to run a comparative test 300 00:12:51,167 --> 00:12:52,833 with the ones we found last year. 301 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,000 So, actually, I've got four pieces in here. 302 00:12:56,167 --> 00:12:57,667 We have a camera up in the top here looking straight down. 303 00:12:57,875 --> 00:12:59,833 Okay, got it. 304 00:12:59,917 --> 00:13:01,750 So that's what I'm seeing on the screen right here, then. 305 00:13:03,875 --> 00:13:06,542 [Chris] So, the three larger pieces that you can see? 306 00:13:06,708 --> 00:13:08,583 [Travis] Uh-huh. 307 00:13:08,750 --> 00:13:10,375 [Chris] Those are Type A. 308 00:13:11,917 --> 00:13:15,750 The Type A ceramic is the material that we examined 309 00:13:15,958 --> 00:13:18,000 at the university last year. 310 00:13:18,167 --> 00:13:20,500 [Travis] Type A ceramic is what we found in Borehole 2. 311 00:13:20,708 --> 00:13:22,000 -Is that right? Okay. -[Erik] Yes. Yes. 312 00:13:22,167 --> 00:13:24,375 And then what is that thing above it? 313 00:13:24,542 --> 00:13:27,333 [Chris] So the one above it I found 314 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:32,292 after last year's investigation, while I was doing winter work 315 00:13:32,500 --> 00:13:35,833 and re-sorting through the drilling spoils of Borehole 2. 316 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,500 And that came from 60 to 90 feet in. 317 00:13:39,667 --> 00:13:41,708 [Travis] Okay, and so that's what you're calling Type B? 318 00:13:41,833 --> 00:13:43,375 [Chris] This is Type B. 319 00:13:43,542 --> 00:13:46,542 Now what's interesting about it is it is very similar 320 00:13:46,708 --> 00:13:48,833 in characteristic to Type A, 321 00:13:49,042 --> 00:13:51,208 meaning it has a similar glaze to it. 322 00:13:52,208 --> 00:13:53,833 All right, so explain to me 323 00:13:54,042 --> 00:13:55,750 your experimental apparatus here. 324 00:13:55,917 --> 00:13:58,167 We're going to use a special kind of UV light, 325 00:13:58,375 --> 00:14:00,333 called UV 365, to see 326 00:14:00,542 --> 00:14:03,917 how different or similar the two ceramics might be. 327 00:14:04,042 --> 00:14:05,833 I've got this in a photo box here, 328 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,042 and I've got the UV 365 looking into the box, 329 00:14:08,167 --> 00:14:10,083 and I've got gloves on, 330 00:14:10,208 --> 00:14:13,000 and I've got safety glasses on that are safe for those rays. 331 00:14:13,083 --> 00:14:16,292 To be clear, 'cause I've played with black lights a lot, 332 00:14:16,417 --> 00:14:18,500 you're saying that you should be wearing safety glasses 333 00:14:18,708 --> 00:14:19,958 with a black light? 334 00:14:20,125 --> 00:14:21,875 Uh, for this level, you should be. 335 00:14:22,042 --> 00:14:26,125 It's at the wavelength that it will cause severe sunburn. 336 00:14:26,333 --> 00:14:28,375 Right? And so it would sunburn your eye, 337 00:14:28,542 --> 00:14:29,833 sunburn your skin. 338 00:14:30,042 --> 00:14:31,375 And it's... it's the wavelength that likely 339 00:14:31,542 --> 00:14:32,792 is what causes skin cancer. 340 00:14:32,917 --> 00:14:34,500 So it's just a preventative thing. 341 00:14:34,667 --> 00:14:38,333 UV 365 is something you've probably seen on crime shows, 342 00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:40,667 where they wave it around and reveal all the stuff 343 00:14:40,792 --> 00:14:42,125 you can't see with the naked eye. 344 00:14:42,292 --> 00:14:45,000 But what Chris wanted to do was to use it 345 00:14:45,208 --> 00:14:47,875 to look for subtle differences to confirm 346 00:14:48,042 --> 00:14:50,125 if they are, in fact, different kinds of ceramics. 347 00:14:50,292 --> 00:14:52,083 [Erik] Well, let's take a look at it. 348 00:14:52,208 --> 00:14:55,083 So, you guys watch it on the screen here. 349 00:14:55,250 --> 00:14:58,958 Most ceramics actually absorb ultraviolet light. 350 00:14:59,083 --> 00:15:01,708 They don't do any fluorescing at all. 351 00:15:01,875 --> 00:15:03,833 What's interesting about it is, 352 00:15:04,042 --> 00:15:07,083 all of a sudden, Type A is fluorescing. 353 00:15:09,958 --> 00:15:11,500 [Thomas] You're saying that typical ceramics 354 00:15:11,625 --> 00:15:13,667 that you see don't glow under a black light like this. 355 00:15:13,875 --> 00:15:17,458 Correct. Now, what's interesting about Type B 356 00:15:17,625 --> 00:15:22,500 is, the coloring doesn't fluoresce the same as Type A. 357 00:15:23,542 --> 00:15:25,208 [Travis] Well, I would say, looking at that, 358 00:15:25,375 --> 00:15:28,333 that the Type A ones are fluorescing blue-green? 359 00:15:28,542 --> 00:15:30,167 -[Chris] Mm-hmm. -[Travis] Right? And then 360 00:15:30,250 --> 00:15:32,250 the Type B one is fluorescing yellow. 361 00:15:32,375 --> 00:15:34,042 [Chris] Yes. 362 00:15:34,208 --> 00:15:35,542 [Travis] I would like to see that compared 363 00:15:35,708 --> 00:15:37,000 to, like, what a real 364 00:15:37,125 --> 00:15:38,625 archaeological ceramic would look like. 365 00:15:38,750 --> 00:15:40,083 Do you have any samples of that? 366 00:15:40,250 --> 00:15:44,667 Yes. This is a piece of ancient Indigenous pottery. 367 00:15:44,875 --> 00:15:46,875 It could be around a thousand years old. 368 00:15:47,042 --> 00:15:49,250 You see it right in the middle? 369 00:15:51,083 --> 00:15:53,292 [Travis] Well, that doesn't fluoresce at all. 370 00:15:53,458 --> 00:15:55,333 [Erik] It looks completely black on the screen with a few... 371 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:57,000 [Travis] Almost like it's charcoal or something. 372 00:15:57,208 --> 00:15:58,500 -[Erik] ...a few bright dots. -[Chris] It does. 373 00:15:58,625 --> 00:16:00,625 So, this is highly absorbent. 374 00:16:00,792 --> 00:16:02,833 But here's another thing I found. 375 00:16:03,042 --> 00:16:05,417 Under a microscope, I saw some buildup 376 00:16:05,583 --> 00:16:08,333 and erosion that happened on both the Type A 377 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:10,167 and the Type B ceramics. 378 00:16:10,333 --> 00:16:13,667 It would take a long, long time to occur inside the mesa. 379 00:16:13,833 --> 00:16:17,458 How much time? Is that tens of years or hundreds of years? 380 00:16:17,583 --> 00:16:20,167 [Chris] If I were to guess, based on my experience, 381 00:16:20,333 --> 00:16:23,333 conservatively, it's in the thousands of years. 382 00:16:23,542 --> 00:16:24,958 Thousands? 383 00:16:26,458 --> 00:16:29,125 -It's thousands of years old? -And that's conservative. 384 00:16:29,333 --> 00:16:32,208 [Travis] This material has got machined edges on it, 385 00:16:32,375 --> 00:16:34,667 which would usually mean it was made sometime 386 00:16:34,792 --> 00:16:37,417 -in the last 50 to 75 years. -Yeah. 387 00:16:37,542 --> 00:16:39,500 [Travis] If what Chris says is correct, 388 00:16:39,708 --> 00:16:42,542 that suggests some really crazy possibilities 389 00:16:42,708 --> 00:16:44,500 for what's in the mesa. 390 00:16:44,708 --> 00:16:47,792 Maybe the ceramics are like the heat shield tiles 391 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,625 on the space shuttle but were part 392 00:16:49,792 --> 00:16:51,833 of some secret government program. 393 00:16:52,042 --> 00:16:55,083 Or another even more insane idea is 394 00:16:55,208 --> 00:16:57,417 that there's some kind of alien technology 395 00:16:57,625 --> 00:17:00,542 that's been buried in the mesa for thousands of years. 396 00:17:00,708 --> 00:17:03,000 I really don't know what to think at this point. 397 00:17:03,167 --> 00:17:05,958 I think our next move is to send off some samples, 398 00:17:06,125 --> 00:17:08,333 and-and we need to get these tested. 399 00:17:08,542 --> 00:17:10,000 I know a lab in Colorado 400 00:17:10,167 --> 00:17:13,000 that can perform thermal luminescence testing. 401 00:17:13,208 --> 00:17:14,667 What do you mean by that? 402 00:17:14,792 --> 00:17:17,625 Well, that's where they will tell you how old it is. 403 00:17:17,792 --> 00:17:19,750 But it's a destructive process, 404 00:17:19,917 --> 00:17:23,208 meaning the Type B sample could be totally destroyed. 405 00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:25,167 And we're fortunate that we have so many samples 406 00:17:25,333 --> 00:17:27,708 of the Type A ceramic. I think it's enough for us 407 00:17:27,875 --> 00:17:29,833 to do some pretty aggressive testing. 408 00:17:30,042 --> 00:17:31,958 But I don't think we should send the Type B in 409 00:17:32,125 --> 00:17:34,708 since we only have one piece. 410 00:17:34,917 --> 00:17:36,417 Well, you know what? As we get the new drill, 411 00:17:36,625 --> 00:17:38,875 uh, core drill rig, up on top of the mesa 412 00:17:39,042 --> 00:17:40,917 and start going down, uh, 413 00:17:41,083 --> 00:17:43,917 maybe you'll be able to find more pieces. 414 00:17:44,083 --> 00:17:46,125 -That's what we need to do. -[Erik] We want to get 415 00:17:46,292 --> 00:17:47,958 this material off to the lab as soon as possible. 416 00:17:48,125 --> 00:17:50,000 I agree. I agree. 417 00:17:50,167 --> 00:17:51,750 -[Chris] All right. -[Travis] Good stuff, man. 418 00:17:51,875 --> 00:17:53,375 [Chris] Thanks, guys. 419 00:18:00,167 --> 00:18:01,708 [Thomas] You have continuity? 420 00:18:02,917 --> 00:18:05,417 -[Katie] Yep, we're good. -Okay. 421 00:18:05,542 --> 00:18:07,417 [Travis] Once the sun went down, 422 00:18:07,583 --> 00:18:10,458 it was finally time to start burning our rocket motors 423 00:18:10,625 --> 00:18:12,542 to see if we could get the blob to show up. 424 00:18:12,708 --> 00:18:14,125 [Thomas] And be advised, 425 00:18:14,208 --> 00:18:15,958 the rocket is good to go. 426 00:18:16,125 --> 00:18:18,167 [Travis] All right, that sounds good, man. 427 00:18:18,333 --> 00:18:22,792 We also decided to launch an actual rocket at the same time 428 00:18:22,958 --> 00:18:24,083 since that's what we think 429 00:18:24,250 --> 00:18:26,667 caused the blob to appear before. 430 00:18:27,708 --> 00:18:30,667 Thomas, I got to tell you, man, the towers look cool. 431 00:18:30,792 --> 00:18:34,833 So here's what this means, guys, the color code. 432 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,833 The green means it's passive. 433 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,125 If you're on that side, you should be safe 434 00:18:39,333 --> 00:18:42,333 from any potential pyro or rocket motors or anything. 435 00:18:42,542 --> 00:18:45,125 The red tower means it's dangerous, stay away from, 436 00:18:45,292 --> 00:18:48,583 'cause this is where we got active pyrotechnics. 437 00:18:48,708 --> 00:18:50,167 -Make sense? -Yeah. 438 00:18:50,292 --> 00:18:51,542 All right. Well, let's get to it. 439 00:18:51,708 --> 00:18:53,333 I'm gonna call Erik, tell him we're going. 440 00:18:53,458 --> 00:18:56,542 Hey, Erik, we've got everything ready to go out here. 441 00:18:56,708 --> 00:18:58,167 Hey, Travis. Copy that. 442 00:18:58,250 --> 00:19:00,375 [Travis] 40 seconds. 443 00:19:00,542 --> 00:19:02,458 [high-pitched tone sounding] 444 00:19:02,625 --> 00:19:06,417 [indistinct chatter] 445 00:19:06,583 --> 00:19:08,000 What's that noise? 446 00:19:08,125 --> 00:19:09,667 Something's coming through the computer, man. 447 00:19:09,875 --> 00:19:10,958 I-I don't know what it is. 448 00:19:11,125 --> 00:19:12,750 [Thomas] So what changed? 449 00:19:12,917 --> 00:19:14,458 I-I don't know. 450 00:19:16,125 --> 00:19:17,792 But I can't get it to turn off. 451 00:19:17,917 --> 00:19:20,667 Let's try something. 452 00:19:21,833 --> 00:19:23,167 [tone stops] 453 00:19:23,333 --> 00:19:25,542 I don't know what that was. I think 454 00:19:25,708 --> 00:19:27,333 it's some sort of weird technical glitch going on. 455 00:19:27,458 --> 00:19:29,167 Something's not playing nice. 456 00:19:29,375 --> 00:19:30,750 [Travis] Yeah, something not playing nice. 457 00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:34,417 That's weird. Whatever happened just then made-- 458 00:19:34,583 --> 00:19:39,083 All of the signals went away, my-my laptop jammed up. 459 00:19:39,250 --> 00:19:42,083 All of a sudden, out of the blue, 460 00:19:42,250 --> 00:19:45,000 my computer, which monitors all my instruments, 461 00:19:45,208 --> 00:19:48,167 glitched in a way that we've never seen before. 462 00:19:48,375 --> 00:19:50,333 And right when we started our countdown. 463 00:19:50,542 --> 00:19:54,500 Now, we have seen equipment fail many times out here 464 00:19:54,708 --> 00:19:57,083 the second we start our experiments. 465 00:19:57,250 --> 00:20:00,000 From my POV, that feels like too many times 466 00:20:00,208 --> 00:20:02,458 to be just a coincidence. 467 00:20:02,625 --> 00:20:06,667 There's one little peak right here at 1.2. 468 00:20:06,833 --> 00:20:09,667 So now I got 1.2 showing up. 469 00:20:09,875 --> 00:20:12,333 This is strange. 470 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:15,833 This 1.2-gigahertz signal was really weird. 471 00:20:16,042 --> 00:20:17,625 It's been showing up 472 00:20:17,833 --> 00:20:20,042 ever since Erik first broadcast it 473 00:20:20,208 --> 00:20:22,125 last year during an experiment. 474 00:20:22,250 --> 00:20:26,000 Like someone or something cloned the signal 475 00:20:26,167 --> 00:20:28,167 and then broadcast it back at us. 476 00:20:28,375 --> 00:20:29,667 I don't know if it's meant to taunt us 477 00:20:29,792 --> 00:20:31,708 or to communicate with us. 478 00:20:31,875 --> 00:20:37,250 Hey, Erik, be advised, I'm getting a 1.2 signal showing up. 479 00:20:37,458 --> 00:20:39,125 Copy that, Travis. Yeah, I can confirm, 480 00:20:39,333 --> 00:20:42,625 uh, several 1.2, uh, peaks. 481 00:20:42,708 --> 00:20:44,458 [Travis] Hey, y'all, let's see if I can see 482 00:20:44,583 --> 00:20:45,792 where that thing's coming from. 483 00:20:45,958 --> 00:20:47,458 Let's see. 484 00:20:48,708 --> 00:20:51,292 My spectrum analyzer was connected 485 00:20:51,458 --> 00:20:53,292 to several antennas here at the triangle. 486 00:20:53,458 --> 00:20:56,333 So, by checking each antenna feed individually, 487 00:20:56,542 --> 00:20:59,333 I wanted to figure out where this signal was coming from. 488 00:20:59,542 --> 00:21:01,625 Well, that's sky-facing. 489 00:21:04,458 --> 00:21:06,333 That's mesa-facing. 490 00:21:06,458 --> 00:21:07,833 [Thomas] That's facing the mesa? 491 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,708 [Travis] That's facing the mesa, that's facing the sky. 492 00:21:09,875 --> 00:21:12,708 So it's not coming from the sky. It's coming from the mesa. 493 00:21:13,833 --> 00:21:15,458 Hey, Erik? 494 00:21:15,625 --> 00:21:20,042 The 1.2 gigahertz is coming from the mesa. 495 00:21:20,208 --> 00:21:22,583 -Copy that. -And, uh, my antenna's pointed 496 00:21:22,708 --> 00:21:24,667 at the mesa, north-northeast. 497 00:21:24,750 --> 00:21:28,208 Now, that's interesting. I wasn't expecting to hear that. 498 00:21:28,375 --> 00:21:31,375 I'm going to see if I can confirm that. 499 00:21:36,125 --> 00:21:39,667 Okay, Travis, I'm looking at the direction-finding system, 500 00:21:39,875 --> 00:21:44,000 and I show a peak, but it isn't coming from the mesa. 501 00:21:44,208 --> 00:21:47,375 That 1.2 is very strong, it is dominant, 502 00:21:47,542 --> 00:21:50,167 it is constant, and it is from the south-southwest. 503 00:21:50,333 --> 00:21:52,333 [Travis] That's weird, man. 504 00:21:52,500 --> 00:21:55,000 My antenna shows it coming from the opposite direction. 505 00:21:55,167 --> 00:21:56,875 All right, 506 00:21:57,042 --> 00:21:59,917 Erik, I don't know what the crap is going on there. 507 00:22:00,083 --> 00:22:03,583 How could Erik and I be getting the same signal 508 00:22:03,708 --> 00:22:05,500 from opposite directions? 509 00:22:05,667 --> 00:22:08,458 Could we be seeing multiple broadcasts at once? 510 00:22:08,625 --> 00:22:11,375 If that's the case, what's doing this? 511 00:22:11,542 --> 00:22:15,000 Is this signal bouncing off the bubble and coming back at us? 512 00:22:15,167 --> 00:22:17,042 Look at that. 513 00:22:17,208 --> 00:22:18,583 [Royston] Oh, there it is. 514 00:22:18,750 --> 00:22:21,208 [Travis] What the hell is that? 515 00:22:21,375 --> 00:22:23,208 That's cra-- That is a lot of energy. 516 00:22:23,375 --> 00:22:25,917 The whole dad-gum spectrum is doing that. 517 00:22:27,042 --> 00:22:28,958 Oh, Lord. 518 00:22:29,125 --> 00:22:34,333 Erik, uh, I just have started getting from the mesa a signal 519 00:22:34,542 --> 00:22:39,333 showing up from 1.59 to 1.60 gigahertz. 520 00:22:39,542 --> 00:22:41,167 It's that whole baseline jumping up and down 521 00:22:41,375 --> 00:22:42,917 that we've seen before. 522 00:22:43,083 --> 00:22:46,750 I can confirm the whole thing's bouncing up and down. 523 00:22:46,917 --> 00:22:50,375 Yeah, and I can tell you that is not common. 524 00:22:50,542 --> 00:22:51,833 [Travis] Yeah, makes, you wonder what's going on, don't it? 525 00:22:52,042 --> 00:22:53,333 [Erik] Yeah, exactly. 526 00:22:53,542 --> 00:22:56,208 Well, that... that's wacky. It's crazy. 527 00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:57,958 I'm gonna keep watching it. Let me know 528 00:22:58,125 --> 00:23:00,375 if y'all see anything weird. All right, well, let's launch 529 00:23:00,542 --> 00:23:03,167 -a rocket and a motor at the same time. -Yeah. 530 00:23:03,375 --> 00:23:04,542 -Let's do it. -Okay. 531 00:23:04,708 --> 00:23:07,042 [Travis] Hey, Erik, do you copy? 532 00:23:07,208 --> 00:23:08,500 Yeah, Travis, go ahead. 533 00:23:08,667 --> 00:23:10,167 Yeah, man, we've got everything ready 534 00:23:10,333 --> 00:23:11,792 to go out here, and then 535 00:23:11,958 --> 00:23:13,250 we're about to get this thing fired up. 536 00:23:13,375 --> 00:23:14,833 Yeah, copy that. 537 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,250 [Travis] Five, four, 538 00:23:17,375 --> 00:23:19,750 three, two, one. 539 00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:24,000 Tower motor's ignited. 540 00:23:24,208 --> 00:23:25,917 It's smoking. 541 00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:30,708 The rocket didn't go. 542 00:23:31,708 --> 00:23:33,250 The rocket's beacon signal's going off, 543 00:23:33,417 --> 00:23:34,875 but why didn't the rocket go? 544 00:23:35,042 --> 00:23:36,375 [Allen] I don't know. 545 00:23:36,542 --> 00:23:37,833 [Travis] All right, well, let's go down with it 546 00:23:38,042 --> 00:23:39,458 and let's go check it out. 547 00:23:39,583 --> 00:23:43,667 What caused a perfectly good rocket not to fire? 548 00:23:43,875 --> 00:23:46,208 I mean, I've fired thousands of them 549 00:23:46,333 --> 00:23:47,833 and never had that problem. 550 00:23:47,958 --> 00:23:50,333 -[alarm chirping] -[Allen] It never even fired. 551 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:52,042 Weirdest thing, the igniter didn't burn. 552 00:23:52,208 --> 00:23:54,042 -[Katie] It didn't even burn. -It was like it was dead. 553 00:23:55,708 --> 00:23:57,958 [Travis] There were no signs of anything physically wrong 554 00:23:58,083 --> 00:23:59,750 with that rocket. 555 00:23:59,917 --> 00:24:03,917 So, did whatever broadcast those signals stop it from launching? 556 00:24:05,208 --> 00:24:06,833 All right, she's hot again. 557 00:24:07,042 --> 00:24:09,375 [Travis] All right. Hey, Erik, you copy? 558 00:24:09,542 --> 00:24:11,417 [Erik] Travis, go ahead. 559 00:24:11,542 --> 00:24:13,667 So, then, we're gonna a-attempt the simultaneous 560 00:24:13,875 --> 00:24:17,000 rocket launch and motor fire at the same time again. 561 00:24:17,208 --> 00:24:18,333 Well, that should be interesting. 562 00:24:18,542 --> 00:24:20,208 I'll stand by. 563 00:24:20,375 --> 00:24:24,333 Finally, Allen managed to get the rocket engine on line again. 564 00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:26,833 Hopefully, this next launch will go as planned. 565 00:24:27,042 --> 00:24:28,792 Pad's clear. 566 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,708 In five, four, three, 567 00:24:31,917 --> 00:24:34,417 two, one. 568 00:24:37,625 --> 00:24:39,917 Tower motor's smoking! 569 00:24:41,417 --> 00:24:42,958 Yeah! 570 00:24:43,875 --> 00:24:46,500 I got it right here. Straight up. 571 00:24:46,667 --> 00:24:49,333 -There it is right there. -There went the chute charge. 572 00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:52,042 Hey, we got a light right there. 573 00:24:52,208 --> 00:24:53,875 Right through the smoke. 574 00:24:54,042 --> 00:24:55,458 [Travis] You did? 575 00:24:57,042 --> 00:24:58,417 -What the heck is that? -You see it right there? 576 00:24:58,542 --> 00:25:00,417 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see it. 577 00:25:00,542 --> 00:25:01,667 Oh, that's probably the chute one. 578 00:25:01,875 --> 00:25:03,500 [Kaleb] No, no, no, it's right there. 579 00:25:03,583 --> 00:25:06,458 See, I know it's a different one right there. 580 00:25:07,375 --> 00:25:09,000 Was that a UAP? 581 00:25:14,375 --> 00:25:16,708 [Kaleb] Was that a UAP? 582 00:25:16,875 --> 00:25:18,500 [Thomas] Where? 583 00:25:18,708 --> 00:25:20,958 Where? I don't see it. 584 00:25:21,042 --> 00:25:23,833 Just as our experiment was finally going according to plan, 585 00:25:23,958 --> 00:25:26,167 Kaleb suddenly spotted some kind of light 586 00:25:26,292 --> 00:25:27,792 moving through the sky 587 00:25:27,958 --> 00:25:29,875 right where we launched our rocket. 588 00:25:30,042 --> 00:25:31,583 Was it a UAP? 589 00:25:32,542 --> 00:25:34,167 [Kaleb] Now it's gone. 590 00:25:37,542 --> 00:25:39,500 [Travis] Whatever Kaleb saw, 591 00:25:39,625 --> 00:25:42,125 it vanished as fast as it appeared, so hopefully 592 00:25:42,292 --> 00:25:44,292 we caught it on one of our specialty cameras. 593 00:25:44,458 --> 00:25:45,917 All right, let's get that rocket 594 00:25:46,083 --> 00:25:47,750 before the screamer battery dies. 595 00:25:47,958 --> 00:25:50,000 -[alarm chirping] -Watch for holes, guys. 596 00:25:50,167 --> 00:25:51,667 Before we conducted another test, 597 00:25:51,875 --> 00:25:55,292 I wanted to track down our rocket from the last launch. 598 00:25:55,458 --> 00:25:57,167 It's equipped with a screamer device 599 00:25:57,292 --> 00:25:58,875 which gives off a loud sound 600 00:25:59,042 --> 00:26:02,500 to help us find it in high weeds or even in the dark. 601 00:26:04,292 --> 00:26:05,958 Good recovery. 602 00:26:06,125 --> 00:26:08,917 Well, wait a minute. Where's the rest of the rocket? 603 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,333 Allen, I'm gonna head out on the road and walk 604 00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:16,667 -down the road a little bit. -Okay. 605 00:26:16,875 --> 00:26:18,875 [Travis] The bottom fell off of the chute shroud. 606 00:26:19,042 --> 00:26:21,417 -[Thomas] Oh, really? -[Travis] The bottom of the rocket 607 00:26:21,583 --> 00:26:23,125 should be there, somewhere near it. 608 00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:26,125 Hey, look here. Hey, look at this. 609 00:26:26,292 --> 00:26:27,750 It was right here. 610 00:26:28,708 --> 00:26:30,500 It looks like it's in decent shape. 611 00:26:30,708 --> 00:26:33,083 For having taken a spill. 612 00:26:33,208 --> 00:26:34,583 [Travis] Look at that! 613 00:26:34,750 --> 00:26:37,208 It looks like the parachute cord just broke. 614 00:26:38,458 --> 00:26:40,458 -That's not burned. -No. 615 00:26:40,625 --> 00:26:41,792 [Thomas] If that was burned, you wouldn't see 616 00:26:41,917 --> 00:26:43,542 -these little fibers. -No. That is not burned. 617 00:26:43,708 --> 00:26:46,083 That is unbelievable. 618 00:26:46,208 --> 00:26:47,500 That's 500-pound cord. 619 00:26:47,667 --> 00:26:49,333 It should not break like that. 620 00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:51,542 That is bizarre. 621 00:26:51,708 --> 00:26:54,625 Did the rocket crash into something? 622 00:26:54,792 --> 00:26:58,000 The only way a parachute cord could break like that 623 00:26:58,167 --> 00:27:02,125 is if something deliberately severed it with a lot of force. 624 00:27:02,292 --> 00:27:04,125 More than 500 pounds. 625 00:27:04,292 --> 00:27:05,667 So, what happened here? 626 00:27:05,792 --> 00:27:07,333 Did it hit the blob? 627 00:27:07,458 --> 00:27:10,958 Or did whatever Kaleb just saw cause this to happen? 628 00:27:12,250 --> 00:27:13,917 Hey, Erik, do you copy? 629 00:27:14,083 --> 00:27:15,667 [Erik] Yeah, Travis, go ahead. 630 00:27:15,833 --> 00:27:18,125 So, the rocket launched beautifully, 631 00:27:18,250 --> 00:27:20,375 we went to recover it, and what we found 632 00:27:20,542 --> 00:27:23,167 was a 500-pound cord, 633 00:27:23,375 --> 00:27:25,250 -and it was broke. -Wow. 634 00:27:25,417 --> 00:27:27,333 Not burned. Broken. 635 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:29,833 And w-- a-and it's-it's bizarre. 636 00:27:30,042 --> 00:27:31,667 Copy that. 637 00:27:31,833 --> 00:27:33,667 Who knows what we're gonna see for the rest of the night. 638 00:27:33,875 --> 00:27:35,667 We're gonna reset 639 00:27:35,875 --> 00:27:37,833 for the next rocket motor launch on the tower. 640 00:27:38,875 --> 00:27:41,833 After everything we just saw, we wanted to run another burn 641 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,000 to see if it was possible to get more evidence of the blob. 642 00:27:45,208 --> 00:27:48,667 All right, we're getting ready to do the last experiment. 643 00:27:48,792 --> 00:27:50,500 We're gonna have a giant motor we're gonna put 644 00:27:50,708 --> 00:27:52,542 -on top of the tower. -[Allen] Okay. 645 00:27:52,708 --> 00:27:54,917 [Travis] It's gonna be pretty spectacular, I think. 646 00:27:59,708 --> 00:28:01,333 When we ran the experiment this time, 647 00:28:01,458 --> 00:28:05,125 we decided to use a larger rocket motor with a bigger burn. 648 00:28:05,292 --> 00:28:08,708 We were hoping that might get the blob to appear. 649 00:28:09,875 --> 00:28:12,458 Allen and Katie also prepared to launch a rocket equipped 650 00:28:12,667 --> 00:28:15,167 with a tracking system that could transmit 651 00:28:15,375 --> 00:28:17,500 real-time data like GPS, speed 652 00:28:17,708 --> 00:28:19,708 and elevation during its flight. 653 00:28:19,875 --> 00:28:21,875 If this rocket also hits something, 654 00:28:22,042 --> 00:28:24,708 it could tell us exactly where. 655 00:28:28,292 --> 00:28:29,875 [Allen] Um... 656 00:28:32,458 --> 00:28:33,750 [Travis] Allen, are you guys ready 657 00:28:33,958 --> 00:28:35,708 with all the other rocket stuff? 658 00:28:36,750 --> 00:28:38,958 [Allen] Sorry, this is not communicating properly. 659 00:28:39,125 --> 00:28:40,958 We can't launch the rocket. 660 00:28:42,750 --> 00:28:45,125 -It won't transmit data? -Uh-uh. 661 00:28:45,292 --> 00:28:47,000 All right, but you are gonna be able to launch 662 00:28:47,125 --> 00:28:48,708 the motor on the tower, right, Katie? 663 00:28:48,875 --> 00:28:50,750 -Yes, sir. -All right. 664 00:28:50,917 --> 00:28:52,708 [Travis] This was the second time tonight 665 00:28:52,875 --> 00:28:55,458 that the rocket launchers had a malfunction. 666 00:28:55,583 --> 00:28:57,750 And if Allen couldn't get his controller to connect, 667 00:28:57,917 --> 00:29:00,917 there wasn't gonna be any other way to launch this rocket. 668 00:29:11,333 --> 00:29:13,083 Erik for Sam. 669 00:29:14,083 --> 00:29:15,708 -[Sam] Go ahead, Erik. -What's going on 670 00:29:15,917 --> 00:29:18,292 with your multi-sensor box at the triangle? 671 00:29:18,458 --> 00:29:20,875 Yeah, it's not wanting to transmit to the server. 672 00:29:21,042 --> 00:29:23,458 It's having an issue. It's not streaming data. 673 00:29:23,667 --> 00:29:25,167 Copy that. 674 00:29:26,208 --> 00:29:28,917 This is really strange right now because you can see live data 675 00:29:29,083 --> 00:29:31,125 coming from all the sensors around the-the ranch. 676 00:29:31,250 --> 00:29:34,833 But this one's refusing to send data back to the server. 677 00:29:36,417 --> 00:29:39,083 [Erik] Jim Royston, Sam Deriso and I have distributed 678 00:29:39,250 --> 00:29:42,333 these multi-sensor boxes at key locations 679 00:29:42,542 --> 00:29:44,583 with known interesting phenomena 680 00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:46,750 across the entire ranch. 681 00:29:46,917 --> 00:29:49,583 The technology contained within these ruggedized boxes 682 00:29:49,708 --> 00:29:50,833 allows us to see data 683 00:29:51,042 --> 00:29:52,792 from all of those sources 684 00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:54,667 while we are running this experiment. 685 00:29:54,875 --> 00:29:58,875 That allows us to observe changes in real time. 686 00:29:59,042 --> 00:30:02,792 So, why are we seeing the multi-sensor box 687 00:30:02,917 --> 00:30:04,500 not working as expected, 688 00:30:04,667 --> 00:30:07,125 and more specifically at the triangle? 689 00:30:07,250 --> 00:30:09,167 [Sam] I've troubleshooted it, and I can't figure out 690 00:30:09,375 --> 00:30:11,083 what is blocking it. 691 00:30:11,208 --> 00:30:13,667 The problem is, it wasn't connecting with our network. 692 00:30:13,833 --> 00:30:15,833 So, there's no backups to the data, 693 00:30:15,958 --> 00:30:17,333 which would cause data loss. 694 00:30:17,542 --> 00:30:20,167 So, something's blocking the signal of this one? 695 00:30:20,375 --> 00:30:21,667 -Yes. -[Travis] And Allen said they lost 696 00:30:21,792 --> 00:30:23,208 the ignitor to the rocket. 697 00:30:23,375 --> 00:30:24,667 -[Sam] Really? -Yeah. 698 00:30:24,792 --> 00:30:26,000 [Travis] Almost everything we've got 699 00:30:26,167 --> 00:30:27,708 has had some kind of malfunction tonight. 700 00:30:27,875 --> 00:30:29,667 And it all has to do with transmitting data. 701 00:30:29,833 --> 00:30:31,250 [Travis] Yep. 702 00:30:31,417 --> 00:30:33,542 It's like something's jamming our equipment. 703 00:30:40,333 --> 00:30:42,583 [Travis] It's like something's jamming our equipment. 704 00:30:42,750 --> 00:30:44,167 That makes, that makes no sense. 705 00:30:44,292 --> 00:30:46,250 [Sam] Yeah, it doesn't make sense. 706 00:30:46,375 --> 00:30:48,958 [Travis] Right as we were about to start a larger rocket burn 707 00:30:49,083 --> 00:30:51,042 at the triangle, a bunch of our equipment 708 00:30:51,167 --> 00:30:52,500 malfunctioned again. 709 00:30:52,708 --> 00:30:54,500 It's almost like something 710 00:30:54,708 --> 00:30:57,208 was purposely sabotaging our experiment. 711 00:30:59,292 --> 00:31:02,500 Yeah, Travis, I'm seeing an increase in that, uh, 712 00:31:02,667 --> 00:31:04,125 1.6, uh, gig signal. 713 00:31:04,292 --> 00:31:06,375 I just want to see if you see the same thing. 714 00:31:08,833 --> 00:31:10,208 [Travis] Yep. Absolutely. 715 00:31:12,083 --> 00:31:14,542 It looks like it's, uh, gone up in strength. 716 00:31:15,542 --> 00:31:17,542 Yeah, I mean, there's been an uptick in just the last, 717 00:31:17,708 --> 00:31:19,542 you know, minute or so. 718 00:31:19,708 --> 00:31:21,417 That is all over the map. 719 00:31:21,542 --> 00:31:23,500 That's strange. 720 00:31:23,708 --> 00:31:25,167 This is crazy. 721 00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:28,292 Could the source of this 1.6-gigahertz signal 722 00:31:28,458 --> 00:31:31,042 be what's been messing with our equipment all night? 723 00:31:32,042 --> 00:31:34,583 Launch status: "pyro no go." 724 00:31:34,792 --> 00:31:37,083 I know, 'cause we're not using it. 725 00:31:37,208 --> 00:31:38,667 [Travis] Any luck with the rocket? 726 00:31:38,833 --> 00:31:40,917 Do you think you'll be able to get it? 727 00:31:41,042 --> 00:31:42,417 -No. -[Travis] You're not gonna get it? 728 00:31:42,583 --> 00:31:44,750 -She keeps doing the same thing. -All right. 729 00:31:44,875 --> 00:31:46,167 Hey, Erik? 730 00:31:46,375 --> 00:31:48,833 So, the rocket is not going to connect, 731 00:31:49,042 --> 00:31:52,292 so this will be just the motor on the tower for now. 732 00:31:52,458 --> 00:31:53,750 Copy that. Standing by. 733 00:31:53,917 --> 00:31:55,458 [Travis] All right, we're starting 734 00:31:55,625 --> 00:31:57,667 the countdown for the... 735 00:31:57,875 --> 00:31:59,542 rocket motor firing 736 00:31:59,708 --> 00:32:02,625 in five, four, 737 00:32:02,792 --> 00:32:04,250 three, 738 00:32:04,375 --> 00:32:06,167 two, one. 739 00:32:12,458 --> 00:32:13,875 [Thomas] Wow. 740 00:32:14,042 --> 00:32:16,083 Boy, that put a lot of smoke up, didn't it? 741 00:32:18,292 --> 00:32:20,833 [Travis] Look at the fire on top of the tower. 742 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,917 Oh, I got to see that in Dave's camera. 743 00:32:25,208 --> 00:32:27,708 Looks like a smokestack, man. 744 00:32:27,875 --> 00:32:29,042 -[Dave] Yeah. -Yeah, 745 00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:31,125 you can see it in the thermal real good. 746 00:32:31,333 --> 00:32:32,625 -[Dave] Yeah. -[Sam] That's a good shot. 747 00:32:34,917 --> 00:32:36,167 Yeah, it just went out. 748 00:32:36,375 --> 00:32:38,208 [Travis] All right, that's it. 749 00:32:38,375 --> 00:32:40,208 Hey, Erik, if you want to come back out 750 00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:43,917 and let's wrap this evening up, let's do it. 751 00:32:44,125 --> 00:32:46,250 Copy that, Travis. I will be right out there. 752 00:32:47,417 --> 00:32:49,167 I think we're all looking forward 753 00:32:49,333 --> 00:32:51,000 to reviewing the video data of various kinds, 754 00:32:51,208 --> 00:32:53,333 including conventional video and, uh, 755 00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:55,667 the thermographic high-speed video. 756 00:32:55,875 --> 00:32:58,583 There's a lot, uh, coming out of this. 757 00:32:58,792 --> 00:33:00,208 I think everyone is curious as to whether 758 00:33:00,375 --> 00:33:02,000 we will see a repeat of something 759 00:33:02,167 --> 00:33:03,375 that we've seen before. 760 00:33:03,542 --> 00:33:06,458 This, of course, is the infamous blob. 761 00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:09,167 -[Travis] There's Erik. -Yeah, I have never seen 762 00:33:09,375 --> 00:33:11,958 one of our experiments the way I just saw it tonight. 763 00:33:12,125 --> 00:33:13,667 There was so much going on. 764 00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:16,083 I don't know what we've got, but we've got all of it. 765 00:33:17,375 --> 00:33:20,333 From the second that we started, it seemed to be nonstop tonight. 766 00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:22,250 -Yeah. -[Thomas] Lot of strange things tonight. 767 00:33:22,417 --> 00:33:23,458 [Travis] Yeah, a lot of strange things and now we got a lot 768 00:33:23,625 --> 00:33:24,792 of data to look through, 769 00:33:24,958 --> 00:33:26,833 but, uh, let's call it a night. 770 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,167 -Let's do. -[Travis] All right. 771 00:33:28,333 --> 00:33:30,000 Good stuff, everybody. 772 00:33:37,042 --> 00:33:38,167 [Erik] A lot of what we're gonna be looking at 773 00:33:38,333 --> 00:33:39,750 is-is very visual. 774 00:33:39,917 --> 00:33:41,750 [Thomas] There was a lot happening. 775 00:33:41,917 --> 00:33:43,375 I'm excited to see what we have. 776 00:33:43,542 --> 00:33:44,958 [Travis] Two days after 777 00:33:45,125 --> 00:33:46,917 our rocket burn experiment at the triangle, 778 00:33:47,083 --> 00:33:48,833 Erik called all of us into the command center 779 00:33:48,958 --> 00:33:51,750 so we could review the processed data. 780 00:33:52,958 --> 00:33:54,667 [Erik] I'm gonna start us off with our, 781 00:33:54,833 --> 00:33:57,042 uh, video surveillance assets. 782 00:33:57,208 --> 00:33:59,833 This is an event, Kaleb, where, uh, you spotted something. 783 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,417 -You pointed it out. -Mm-hmm. 784 00:34:01,542 --> 00:34:03,708 This is the one that I remember. We had the rocket go... 785 00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:06,292 -Okay. -...and it looked like there was another light 786 00:34:06,417 --> 00:34:08,833 that was moving to the west. 787 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,792 [Thomas] Yeah, it was like a UAP 788 00:34:10,958 --> 00:34:12,667 -next to the rocket. -[Kaleb] Yeah. 789 00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:14,167 [Travis] But is this the launch 790 00:34:14,292 --> 00:34:16,625 where the chute cord got broken? 791 00:34:16,792 --> 00:34:18,083 [Erik] Yes, exactly. 792 00:34:18,250 --> 00:34:20,000 So, this is a great view from the south field 793 00:34:20,167 --> 00:34:23,167 of the property looking back towards the triangle. 794 00:34:23,292 --> 00:34:26,208 This is the launch that we're talking about. 795 00:34:31,208 --> 00:34:32,583 [Travis] There's the rocket. 796 00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:34,167 Rocket goes up. 797 00:34:35,292 --> 00:34:37,042 [Travis] Yeah, I just saw the rocket body fall over here. 798 00:34:37,208 --> 00:34:39,167 -[Thomas] Mm-hmm. -[Erik] Now, 799 00:34:39,375 --> 00:34:41,667 let's watch this from the perspective of Meta-Frame. 800 00:34:41,875 --> 00:34:45,208 And this will be playing back like a time-lapse. 801 00:34:46,625 --> 00:34:47,958 [Kaleb] So, that's the drone going up 802 00:34:48,167 --> 00:34:49,958 -[Travis] Yep. Yep. -...that we see. 803 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,042 [Erik] Then that big flash is our rocket motor burning. 804 00:34:54,208 --> 00:34:56,708 But then notice this light right here. 805 00:34:56,917 --> 00:34:58,250 [Kaleb] Whoa. 806 00:34:58,417 --> 00:35:00,417 -What is that? -[Travis] That's crazy, dude. 807 00:35:01,542 --> 00:35:02,750 [Erik] The timing 808 00:35:02,917 --> 00:35:04,583 of this feature... 809 00:35:04,792 --> 00:35:06,250 -Yes. -...in the video record 810 00:35:06,375 --> 00:35:08,542 -with what happened to that cord... -[Travis] Yeah. 811 00:35:08,708 --> 00:35:10,958 ...really raises questions for me. 812 00:35:11,125 --> 00:35:12,875 That's a good point, Erik. 813 00:35:13,042 --> 00:35:14,292 You may have caught whatever caused 814 00:35:14,458 --> 00:35:16,708 the rocket to tear itself apart. 815 00:35:21,208 --> 00:35:22,833 [Travis] You may have caught whatever caused 816 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,458 the rocket to tear itself apart. 817 00:35:25,542 --> 00:35:27,375 -[Erik] Yeah. -[Kaleb] Yeah. 818 00:35:29,167 --> 00:35:30,333 [Travis] I can't believe it. 819 00:35:30,458 --> 00:35:32,000 This enhanced video 820 00:35:32,208 --> 00:35:33,667 from our experiment at the triangle 821 00:35:33,875 --> 00:35:36,833 clearly showed a bright, orb-like object 822 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,500 appearing right next to the rocket we launched, 823 00:35:39,708 --> 00:35:42,333 and just moments before its parachute cord was cut. 824 00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:44,042 It didn't look like the blob, 825 00:35:44,208 --> 00:35:45,875 so what was this UAP 826 00:35:46,042 --> 00:35:48,542 that suddenly appeared inside the bubble? 827 00:35:49,583 --> 00:35:51,250 Well, Pete, this is a good time to throw to you, 828 00:35:51,417 --> 00:35:53,875 -let you put your data on the screen. -Perfect. 829 00:35:54,042 --> 00:35:55,708 I want to show you the drone footage first. 830 00:35:55,875 --> 00:35:57,083 Okay. 831 00:35:57,250 --> 00:35:58,833 [Erik] You've got my attention. 832 00:35:58,958 --> 00:36:00,167 [Travis] Is this the launch 833 00:36:00,375 --> 00:36:02,833 where the chute cord got broken? 834 00:36:03,042 --> 00:36:06,042 This is the exact same rocket launch. 835 00:36:06,250 --> 00:36:07,708 [Travis] So, let's watch for it. 836 00:36:13,542 --> 00:36:15,417 [Pete] And then I held on the smoke. 837 00:36:15,542 --> 00:36:17,500 That's our region of interest right there, you know. 838 00:36:23,583 --> 00:36:26,833 What was that? What caused that shake? 839 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,083 [Thomas] Yeah, what was that shake? 840 00:36:28,208 --> 00:36:29,583 Haven't seen that before. 841 00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:32,167 Just thinking about that broken shock cord 842 00:36:32,333 --> 00:36:33,708 -and that big bright object... -Yeah. 843 00:36:33,875 --> 00:36:36,042 -...that we saw in the sky. -Yeah, yeah. 844 00:36:36,208 --> 00:36:37,500 [Thomas] Would correlate really close 845 00:36:37,708 --> 00:36:40,458 -to that shake. -[Travis] Could be. 846 00:36:40,625 --> 00:36:44,500 What-what on Earth made your drone shake like that, Pete? 847 00:36:45,542 --> 00:36:47,042 [Thomas] I don't know what caused this rope to break 848 00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:50,250 or what hit Pete's drone, 849 00:36:50,417 --> 00:36:52,542 but I do find it interesting that, at the same time, 850 00:36:52,708 --> 00:36:55,208 Erik caught something in the sky. 851 00:36:55,375 --> 00:36:57,250 There's definitely something interesting 852 00:36:57,417 --> 00:36:59,500 in the airspace here above the triangle. 853 00:36:59,625 --> 00:37:02,167 And why? This mystery only continues 854 00:37:02,250 --> 00:37:03,875 to get bigger and bigger. 855 00:37:05,167 --> 00:37:06,625 So, the next piece... 856 00:37:06,792 --> 00:37:09,750 I want to show you the terrestrial laser scanning. 857 00:37:09,875 --> 00:37:12,750 [Travis] One of the objectives of this experiment 858 00:37:12,917 --> 00:37:14,333 was to figure out if the blob 859 00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:16,750 was connected to the bubble in some way. 860 00:37:16,917 --> 00:37:18,125 So, we were all hoping to see 861 00:37:18,292 --> 00:37:20,708 if it might show up in Pete's scans. 862 00:37:20,875 --> 00:37:22,875 [Pete] I want to show you 863 00:37:23,042 --> 00:37:24,625 one scan in particular. 864 00:37:27,208 --> 00:37:28,833 [Travis] Oh, I can see the striations already. 865 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,250 -Mm-hmm. -Yep. 866 00:37:30,417 --> 00:37:32,625 [Pete] Now, as we go up... 867 00:37:33,542 --> 00:37:35,000 [Travis] Now, look, right there. 868 00:37:36,167 --> 00:37:38,542 -See the concentric rings? -[Thomas] Yep. 869 00:37:38,708 --> 00:37:41,583 [Travis] We might have the bubble in view. 870 00:37:42,667 --> 00:37:44,000 Again. 871 00:37:45,333 --> 00:37:48,167 Is there any way to know exactly the elevation of that? 872 00:37:48,292 --> 00:37:50,125 You want to take a guess? 873 00:37:50,250 --> 00:37:52,833 -610 meters. -Yes, sir. 874 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,417 [stifled laugh] 875 00:37:56,375 --> 00:37:58,917 [Travis] I was excited because 610 meters 876 00:37:59,042 --> 00:38:01,292 translates to about 2,000 feet, 877 00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:04,125 which is the exact radius of the bubble. 878 00:38:04,250 --> 00:38:06,292 But what caused it to appear? 879 00:38:06,458 --> 00:38:08,333 Did our experiment to trigger the blob 880 00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:11,000 actually trigger the bubble to appear instead? 881 00:38:11,208 --> 00:38:12,542 [Erik] I want to take us to some 882 00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:14,458 of the other records that we got. 883 00:38:14,542 --> 00:38:16,917 I want to get your eyes on the big screen here. 884 00:38:17,125 --> 00:38:18,917 Let's look at the thermal video. 885 00:38:19,125 --> 00:38:21,083 We captured something else, too. 886 00:38:21,250 --> 00:38:23,917 The thermal camera was framed for the blob, 887 00:38:24,083 --> 00:38:26,250 but you can see we have the mesa in the background. 888 00:38:26,417 --> 00:38:28,708 You can see the ridgeline. 889 00:38:28,875 --> 00:38:30,708 I'm just gonna play through at the normal rate. 890 00:38:34,333 --> 00:38:36,958 [Travis] Whoa. What in the world is that? 891 00:38:37,958 --> 00:38:41,042 [Erik] We have this cold zone above the mesa. 892 00:38:41,208 --> 00:38:43,125 The darker the color, the colder it is. 893 00:38:43,333 --> 00:38:47,333 So this area is extremely cold compared to the surroundings. 894 00:38:48,375 --> 00:38:49,583 [Travis] Whoa. What is that? 895 00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:51,500 Even when somebody walked in front of it, 896 00:38:51,667 --> 00:38:53,375 -it is still out there. -That's interesting. That's... 897 00:38:53,542 --> 00:38:55,500 So, it means it's out there and not up here. 898 00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:57,000 -Yep. -[Travis] You can see 899 00:38:57,208 --> 00:38:58,708 Thomas on the, on the cherry picker 900 00:38:58,875 --> 00:39:02,583 moving around over here, and it's still there. 901 00:39:06,042 --> 00:39:07,833 [Sam] And it disappears as quickly 902 00:39:08,042 --> 00:39:09,417 as it appears. 903 00:39:09,583 --> 00:39:11,958 Did it show up any other time during the night? 904 00:39:12,125 --> 00:39:14,792 [Erik] Okay, I'm gonna take us forward just a few minutes. 905 00:39:16,042 --> 00:39:18,833 [Travis] Oh, there's-there's-- v-- almost the exact same shape. 906 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,583 It looks almost the same, with a dark spot dead center... 907 00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:24,250 -Yeah. -...and the same kind of rectangular-like boundary. 908 00:39:24,458 --> 00:39:26,167 Yeah, saw that very definitive, 909 00:39:26,375 --> 00:39:29,792 you know, black cold spot above the mesa. 910 00:39:30,833 --> 00:39:32,958 [Travis] We had no idea what this cold spot was. 911 00:39:33,167 --> 00:39:35,833 But what struck me was it's in the same direction 912 00:39:36,042 --> 00:39:38,167 where I got the 1.2-gigahertz signal. 913 00:39:38,333 --> 00:39:40,375 So, was this cold spot the source? 914 00:39:40,542 --> 00:39:42,292 And could it be connected to whatever's buried 915 00:39:42,375 --> 00:39:43,667 inside the mesa? 916 00:39:43,833 --> 00:39:47,125 Or is it something to do with the bubble? 917 00:39:47,250 --> 00:39:48,917 [Erik] Guys, this has been 918 00:39:49,042 --> 00:39:50,667 one hell of a day to review. 919 00:39:50,875 --> 00:39:53,417 Yeah, the more we keep studying this triangle area, 920 00:39:53,583 --> 00:39:55,833 the more we keep coming up with these crazy results. 921 00:39:56,042 --> 00:39:58,125 But, uh, this has really been one to remember. 922 00:39:58,292 --> 00:40:00,333 -[Travis] Absolutely. -Yeah, we've got a lot of work to do, 923 00:40:00,542 --> 00:40:02,000 and I say we get to it. 924 00:40:02,125 --> 00:40:03,292 -All right. -All right. 925 00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:04,875 [Travis] Good stuff. 926 00:40:06,375 --> 00:40:08,042 [Erik] Much of our work this year 927 00:40:08,208 --> 00:40:09,875 will focus on this bubble 928 00:40:10,042 --> 00:40:13,708 and all the phenomena that we're not just witnessing 929 00:40:13,833 --> 00:40:16,583 but experiencing in the center of the bubble, 930 00:40:16,750 --> 00:40:18,542 like the blob, to determine 931 00:40:18,667 --> 00:40:21,500 who or what those sources are. 932 00:40:21,667 --> 00:40:24,000 [Travis] We're just getting started, 933 00:40:24,208 --> 00:40:25,875 and it's already looking 934 00:40:26,042 --> 00:40:28,292 like this could be our craziest year yet. 935 00:40:28,375 --> 00:40:31,333 There's more UAPs, more strange signals. 936 00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:32,875 Then there's these ceramics. 937 00:40:33,042 --> 00:40:35,500 Just more evidence that there's something 938 00:40:35,708 --> 00:40:37,958 beyond explanation buried inside the mesa. 939 00:40:38,042 --> 00:40:40,375 We're gonna find out what these things are, 940 00:40:40,542 --> 00:40:42,833 and how they're all connected. 941 00:40:43,875 --> 00:40:45,167 [Brandon] Skinwalker Ranch 942 00:40:45,333 --> 00:40:47,583 is the most renowned hot spot 943 00:40:47,708 --> 00:40:50,667 for all things paranormal and high strangeness. 944 00:40:50,792 --> 00:40:54,792 The team is more motivated than ever to get answers, 945 00:40:54,958 --> 00:40:58,500 because what we're dealing with here is unprecedented. 946 00:40:59,708 --> 00:41:02,792 I am prepared to accept whatever the truth is. 947 00:41:05,417 --> 00:41:06,958 [Travis] Look at this. Something hit the rocket 948 00:41:07,083 --> 00:41:09,458 -right there. -[Erik] What is that light? 949 00:41:09,625 --> 00:41:11,167 [Thomas] Something was in the sky. 950 00:41:11,375 --> 00:41:13,333 [Erik] We want to go down till we hit whatever it is 951 00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:15,208 that's buried here in the mesa. 952 00:41:15,333 --> 00:41:16,833 -We just broke a hose? -Yep. 953 00:41:17,042 --> 00:41:19,000 -You're hitting metal. -[Travis] There is something 954 00:41:19,125 --> 00:41:20,875 metallic buried in the mesa. 955 00:41:21,042 --> 00:41:22,292 [Cameron] Wow. 956 00:41:22,458 --> 00:41:23,875 Hey, we just saw something flying. 957 00:41:24,042 --> 00:41:25,667 -Got a light right there. -Look at that. 958 00:41:25,792 --> 00:41:27,042 -[Cameron] Right there. -[Brandon] That's a UFO. 959 00:41:27,208 --> 00:41:28,708 [Erik] Looks like it's following the helicopter. 960 00:41:28,875 --> 00:41:31,292 Hey, Cameron, there is something tracking you. 961 00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:33,833 Look at the heat coming out of the homestead. 962 00:41:33,958 --> 00:41:36,375 [Thomas] We need to get to the bottom of what's going on 963 00:41:36,542 --> 00:41:37,792 at the Homestead Two. 964 00:41:37,958 --> 00:41:39,375 Something moving around right here. 965 00:41:39,542 --> 00:41:41,542 Yeah, Thomas, I've got a light source 966 00:41:41,708 --> 00:41:43,583 heading for Homestead Two. 967 00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:46,500 I've never had stuff go haywire like this before. 968 00:41:46,708 --> 00:41:48,625 -I want out of here. -Turn the lasers on! 969 00:41:48,792 --> 00:41:50,667 [Travis] Detonation! 970 00:41:50,875 --> 00:41:53,167 -Oh! -[Thomas] Get in the vehicles! 971 00:41:53,292 --> 00:41:54,458 -Get back! -[bleep] 972 00:41:54,625 --> 00:41:56,167 [indistinct shouting] 973 00:41:56,292 --> 00:41:57,917 [Thomas] What the hell did we just witness? 974 00:41:58,083 --> 00:41:59,625 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A E NETWORKS